Michael's "Women"

I stumbled across these supposed statements by Stephanie Mills on a message board.  I haven't read them with my own eyes, nor did I personally listen to that radio interview, so take this with a grain of salt.  If she said these things, she certainly seems to speak quite a bit about Michael.  At least she isn't claiming to have been his secret lover all these years like so many others, but still, it makes you wonder what he thought about all her blabbing about their relationship.  Michael has said some very sweet things about her as well; they were mostly about her gifted performances.

2007 Radio Interview (sorry I don’t know the station right now)

DJ: Is it or is it not true that many, many years ago, you and Michael Jackson used to go out?

SM: Yes, it's true.

DJ: I told ya'll! I told ya'll! People don't believe he ever had a black girlfriend!

SM: I was his only little chocolate drop!

SM: No, we never had sex. I never had sex with Michael.

DJ: Did you ever see it?

SM: See what? You know what I want to say...Michael is very much a man and he's very, he was very loving, very caring and all that but I've never, we never had sex and I never saw him... I only saw Michael with his underwear on and he looked very cute

SM: He is a great kisser!

DJ: Wow!

SM: And he's very, very affectionate!

Male DJ: Where'd he kiss you at?

SM: Where'd he kiss me at? Where do you think he kissed me?

BOTH DJs: WHOA!!!


October 2009:  “Michael was definitely my boyfriend back in the day,” said Mills. “But I don’t know if I was his girlfriend,” she said over loud bursts of laughter from the audience.


November 2009  “Michael and I were friends for a very long time. I used to stay with him – actually – we used to sleep in the same bed, when he was shooting the Wiz movie. You couldn’t have told me I wouldn’t be Mrs Michael Jackson.


April 2010:  “Well, Michael and I were really great, great friends,” she says. “We dated in the early ’80s and the ’70s, and we were good friends.”

I heard that interview... It's on youtube. She also said stuff that didn't sit well with me about his changing appearance... Can't remember exactly what it was, but I felt a bit dissapointed in her...

Yeah, I read about that one, too.  I also read somewhere about an incident where LaToya caught Michael and Stephanie and he had his hands down her panties.  -Someone hand Janni some oxygen... (no, I know you already heard about this, Janni, and we chose to not believe, right?)

So, speaking of women.  Thoughts on Ruska Bergman?

Here is a link with pics:

http://mj-upbeat.com/RUSKABERGMANTheLastDinnerWithMichaelJackson.htm

EXCLUSIVE: RUSKA BERGMAN

The last dinner with Michael Jackson

Famous New York stylist who was born in Takov, the woman who enchanted Steven Spielberg, Nicole Kidman and Hilary Clinton, for two and a half years she was inseparable with the tragic King of Pop, who said a month before he left this world’s stage that he will forever be with her.

Written by: Zaneta Apostolovski
Photos: Private Albums


Michael Jackson was never selfish, he shared his love with the whole world, but that he’s the King of Pop – no one truly admitted that till he died. Michael wasn’t a freak, even though so many ugly things and lies were written about him. People simply didn’t understand him just like they didn’t understand Beethoven and Mozart but time has proven that they were musical geniuses as well. Jackson was an amazing artist. He lived in his own world with his music. I’m happy/lucky because I got to be his friend and that he chose me out of all people to be his stylist – says Ruska Bergman, the personal stylist of the late pop icon.

She’s only worked for a few years in New York but she’s already worked with Hilary Clinton, Bjork, Cindy Crawford , Nicole Kidman, Gwyneth Paltrow and many other stars. She’s convinced that Michael Jackson was the most noble and sophisticated person that she worked with.

“I work for the Italian ‘L’Uomo Vogue’, I styled lots of directors, athletes, actors and when we had to pick out a music icon for our photoshoot, I suggested Michael Jackson, so I sent him a letter. I was at the theatre when after three weeks I got a phonecall from his lawyer who said he was calling on behalf of Michael Jackson.” – I was completely caught off guard. I got scared that I did something wrong in the way I contacted him …so I started apologizing. When the lawyer told me that Michael agreed to do the photoshoot, I asked him to repeat that sentence again before I pass out …I called the editor of the magazine right away and told her that Michael Jackson agreed to do the photoshoot.”

According to Ruska, the preparations for this photoshoot were the most intense preparations on the planet.

“I got thousands of girls assisting us but by the end of it we decided on six. Completely impressed with what he saw, Michael simply shouted, “Girls, you are divine!” – but in order for Ruska to hear that sentence she worked very hard for five months.

Even though he was a megastar, Michael never acted like one on the set. He was very professional, he knew that he was working with the best stylists, make-up artists and photographers and he never saw their work as something beneath him.

There were hundreds of people on set. We played his Thriller album, he immediately stood in front of the camera and started dancing and a few moments later everyone was in tears. He had so much energy that I then, and many times later, thought that he must be from a different planet.

Michael Jackson thought the same about Ruska though. He was amazed how much love she put into her work . Because of similar sensibilities, they continued to work together and their professional association quickly turned into friendship. He loved her character and honesty. He appreciated the fact that she was always honest about what she could and couldn’t do as far as her work goes.

The change in Jackson’s style over the last couple of years was very noticeable and noticed by the world media…on the internet blogs, everyone was asking who was behind the new look of this 20th century pop icon; His secret weapon was of course RUSKA BERGMAN!

“He trusted my taste a lot and he used to always tell me to never stop because I’m the most interesting person he’s ever met! When we became friends, he told me when I first showed up on his door in Vegas he could smell the Mediterranean sea on me”


Ruska and Michael were working intensely with one another over the last two years. They saw eachother often and stayed in touch regularly.

“My phone rang on New Years. I picked up the phone and heard someone singing opera. I was completely baffled. I asked who it was and Michael responded, “Who do you think it is?” – He was very shy and I can’t even describe how gentle he was. But his talent, voice, music and charisma can’t be surpassed.”

From the first time they met, Ruska was convinced he was a genius. After that meeting in Vegas, her whole world changed. She walked down the street and suddenly compared to Michael, all the people seemed so ordinary.

“The more I watched him, the more I loved him'', He was simply magic. He was the most noble person in the world. No man on Earth can compare to his inner and outer beauty. I met so many stars, talked to them, worked with them, but no one was even close to Michael’s charisma. He was simply always ahead of everyone else and I can’t believe that my dear friend died How can I believe it when we actively worked so much together lately? I was getting the styling ideas ready for the tour, which unfortunately he will never get to do now – and it would’ve been a true spectacle.

According to Forbes magazine, Jackson would’ve earned 2.5 billion dollars from that tour, But he wasn’t too concerned about that. He had over 30 people who took care of everything and he had eleven lawyers, he lived in complete isolation but he was able to see who his true friends are. The moment Ruska came to LA, Michael would call her and sometimes he himself would pick her up at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

“The window of the limo would go down and Michael – guarded by six bodyguards in there – would wave at me and call me over. We loved and respected eachother. He loved everything that I wore, and he always wanted to wear it. He always asked me where I was hiding so long. A man like that will never come by again, but I’m convinced that his music will live for hundreds of years. Everyone copies him, but only when Michael himself showed up would people actually faint.”

The woman who works in the biggest fashion house and gives advice to Tom Ford, Givenchy and many others, she fascinated the King of Pop when it came to how humble she was and her general view when it came to money.

When we had dinner just a month ago, Michael asked me, “Do you know why I love working with you? You never asked me for money. And we never talked about some agreements. You trusted me as I trusted you. I changed six managers in two years. You’re the only person who stuck with me. Everyone else came and went, and you, my dear, will be with me forever.''

The last time she saw him was two weeks before his death. She was at his house five days in a row.

“He was truly beautiful. He didn’t seem depressed or sad at all. He even danced a bit. Didn’t seem to have a care in the world. As always, he was the gentlest person on the planet. It seemed almost as if he was ‘ours’ . I never felt that about anyone aside from ~Steven Spielberg. But Michael was so unusual, his warmth and love completely got me. Everything was just fine. I can’t believe that he’s gone all of a sudden.”

She heard the news about his death while she was in the studio. The moment she heard it she thought she would fall off the chair. The only thing she could possibly say was that it was simply impossible, it can’t be. She couldn’t stop crying for days. All the material and the photographs and data that she has, she’s keeping for the movie, This is It, that’s coming out.

“I know I was very privileged because I had the chance to be so close to him, to see him as a real person. We perfectly understood eachother. I feel sad that the media was so unfair and cruel to him. He didn’t have cancer, his nose wasn’t falling off, all those things are just fabrications, stupidities and lies. The pop icon is among angels right now, but his music will live forever.”

Well, I've never heard neither Toya or Stephanie talk about that incident, so untill I do, well... Not that I take Toya's word as the gospel, cuz according to her she has never had anything done to her face or boobs (jeez), so if major surgery slipped past her attention, lord knows what else did...

As for Rushka... She could very well be the his "secret" companion that Susan Etok, among others, were talking about. But still, there is nothing that makes her stand out. If there were something there, she would prefer to keep it quiet and I respect that. Then she obvuioulsy will have more integrety than all the other tramps (and no PJ, that os NOT a bad word!) who are coming forward with their self-deluded lies...

On another note: Rushka sweety, why the glum look? You're standing next to Michael Jackson!!! You could at least act like you give a tiny rats booty! I guess it's a fashion look... "I'm so fab that I simply don't have to care!"  I would be smiling so hard my head would crack open!

Hmmm, I want to pluck her eyebrows, though I do love the jackets and his riding gloves are divine!

I've read this Rushka thing before and don't believe for a moment they were anything but friends.  I also don't believe that story about Toya walking in on Mike's hands down anyone's panties.  I mean, come on!  You've seen the fingers in action on stage!  If Michael had his hands in her panties, all her moaning and panting would have announced what they were doing long before Toya got in the room to see with her own eyes.

Have I earned the Naughty Chair?  What do you all think?

bjlocklear wrote

Yeah, I read about that one, too.  I also read somewhere about an incident where LaToya caught Michael and Stephanie and he had his hands down her panties.  -Someone hand Janni some oxygen... (no, I know you already heard about this, Janni, and we chose to not believe, right?)

So, speaking of women.  Thoughts on Ruska Bergman?

Here is a link with pics:

http://mj-upbeat.com/RUSKABERGMANTheLastDinnerWithMichaelJackson.htm

EXCLUSIVE: RUSKA BERGMAN

The last dinner with Michael Jackson

Famous New York stylist who was born in Takov, the woman who enchanted Steven Spielberg, Nicole Kidman and Hilary Clinton, for two and a half years she was inseparable with the tragic King of Pop, who said a month before he left this world’s stage that he will forever be with her.

Written by: Zaneta Apostolovski
Photos: Private Albums


Michael Jackson was never selfish, he shared his love with the whole world, but that he’s the King of Pop – no one truly admitted that till he died. Michael wasn’t a freak, even though so many ugly things and lies were written about him. People simply didn’t understand him just like they didn’t understand Beethoven and Mozart but time has proven that they were musical geniuses as well. Jackson was an amazing artist. He lived in his own world with his music. I’m happy/lucky because I got to be his friend and that he chose me out of all people to be his stylist – says Ruska Bergman, the personal stylist of the late pop icon.

She’s only worked for a few years in New York but she’s already worked with Hilary Clinton, Bjork, Cindy Crawford , Nicole Kidman, Gwyneth Paltrow and many other stars. She’s convinced that Michael Jackson was the most noble and sophisticated person that she worked with.

“I work for the Italian ‘L’Uomo Vogue’, I styled lots of directors, athletes, actors and when we had to pick out a music icon for our photoshoot, I suggested Michael Jackson, so I sent him a letter. I was at the theatre when after three weeks I got a phonecall from his lawyer who said he was calling on behalf of Michael Jackson.” – I was completely caught off guard. I got scared that I did something wrong in the way I contacted him …so I started apologizing. When the lawyer told me that Michael agreed to do the photoshoot, I asked him to repeat that sentence again before I pass out …I called the editor of the magazine right away and told her that Michael Jackson agreed to do the photoshoot.”

According to Ruska, the preparations for this photoshoot were the most intense preparations on the planet.

“I got thousands of girls assisting us but by the end of it we decided on six. Completely impressed with what he saw, Michael simply shouted, “Girls, you are divine!” – but in order for Ruska to hear that sentence she worked very hard for five months.

Even though he was a megastar, Michael never acted like one on the set. He was very professional, he knew that he was working with the best stylists, make-up artists and photographers and he never saw their work as something beneath him.

There were hundreds of people on set. We played his Thriller album, he immediately stood in front of the camera and started dancing and a few moments later everyone was in tears. He had so much energy that I then, and many times later, thought that he must be from a different planet.

Michael Jackson thought the same about Ruska though. He was amazed how much love she put into her work . Because of similar sensibilities, they continued to work together and their professional association quickly turned into friendship. He loved her character and honesty. He appreciated the fact that she was always honest about what she could and couldn’t do as far as her work goes.

The change in Jackson’s style over the last couple of years was very noticeable and noticed by the world media…on the internet blogs, everyone was asking who was behind the new look of this 20th century pop icon; His secret weapon was of course RUSKA BERGMAN!

“He trusted my taste a lot and he used to always tell me to never stop because I’m the most interesting person he’s ever met! When we became friends, he told me when I first showed up on his door in Vegas he could smell the Mediterranean sea on me”


Ruska and Michael were working intensely with one another over the last two years. They saw eachother often and stayed in touch regularly.

“My phone rang on New Years. I picked up the phone and heard someone singing opera. I was completely baffled. I asked who it was and Michael responded, “Who do you think it is?” – He was very shy and I can’t even describe how gentle he was. But his talent, voice, music and charisma can’t be surpassed.”

From the first time they met, Ruska was convinced he was a genius. After that meeting in Vegas, her whole world changed. She walked down the street and suddenly compared to Michael, all the people seemed so ordinary.

“The more I watched him, the more I loved him'', He was simply magic. He was the most noble person in the world. No man on Earth can compare to his inner and outer beauty. I met so many stars, talked to them, worked with them, but no one was even close to Michael’s charisma. He was simply always ahead of everyone else and I can’t believe that my dear friend died How can I believe it when we actively worked so much together lately? I was getting the styling ideas ready for the tour, which unfortunately he will never get to do now – and it would’ve been a true spectacle.

According to Forbes magazine, Jackson would’ve earned 2.5 billion dollars from that tour, But he wasn’t too concerned about that. He had over 30 people who took care of everything and he had eleven lawyers, he lived in complete isolation but he was able to see who his true friends are. The moment Ruska came to LA, Michael would call her and sometimes he himself would pick her up at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

“The window of the limo would go down and Michael – guarded by six bodyguards in there – would wave at me and call me over. We loved and respected eachother. He loved everything that I wore, and he always wanted to wear it. He always asked me where I was hiding so long. A man like that will never come by again, but I’m convinced that his music will live for hundreds of years. Everyone copies him, but only when Michael himself showed up would people actually faint.”

The woman who works in the biggest fashion house and gives advice to Tom Ford, Givenchy and many others, she fascinated the King of Pop when it came to how humble she was and her general view when it came to money.

When we had dinner just a month ago, Michael asked me, “Do you know why I love working with you? You never asked me for money. And we never talked about some agreements. You trusted me as I trusted you. I changed six managers in two years. You’re the only person who stuck with me. Everyone else came and went, and you, my dear, will be with me forever.''

The last time she saw him was two weeks before his death. She was at his house five days in a row.

“He was truly beautiful. He didn’t seem depressed or sad at all. He even danced a bit. Didn’t seem to have a care in the world. As always, he was the gentlest person on the planet. It seemed almost as if he was ‘ours’ . I never felt that about anyone aside from ~Steven Spielberg. But Michael was so unusual, his warmth and love completely got me. Everything was just fine. I can’t believe that he’s gone all of a sudden.”

She heard the news about his death while she was in the studio. The moment she heard it she thought she would fall off the chair. The only thing she could possibly say was that it was simply impossible, it can’t be. She couldn’t stop crying for days. All the material and the photographs and data that she has, she’s keeping for the movie, This is It, that’s coming out.

“I know I was very privileged because I had the chance to be so close to him, to see him as a real person. We perfectly understood eachother. I feel sad that the media was so unfair and cruel to him. He didn’t have cancer, his nose wasn’t falling off, all those things are just fabrications, stupidities and lies. The pop icon is among angels right now, but his music will live forever.”

No, PJ I think you can stay...

I think I'm gonna see if I can crop Rushka out if that last pic, cuz he kinda looks like that pic from the Vogue shoot that was also posted here... You know that one with the expensive watch... I'll post it if I succeed; have a feeling we would all want her out of the picture, so to speak

See, much better

It is MUCH better.  As a matter of fact, I also love the version of that shoot with Tatiana much better with just MJ in it.  (I don't like to be distracted.)

It is MUCH better.  As a matter of fact, I also love the version of that shoot with Tatiana much better with just MJ in it.  (I don't like to be distracted.)

i think that she loved him,you could see that,she often had butterflies in her stomach,that she was saying ...i,sincerely wanted a real women in his life to make him happy,cause he deserve it...

Tatiana probably pasted herself into the photo...

So this is what I heard back then, when BAD was still on the charts. She and Michael flirted alot during the making of the video. He spent time with her in between breaks. Latoya and Ms. Katherine notice. Ms. Katherine wanted Michael to be with a girl that cared about him, so she started getting to know Ms Tatiana. Michael became uncomfortable with her, "closeness' with his mom. He tried to distance himself from Tatiana and keep it professional, but by then she was already in love. On the BAD tour she made the fatal mistake of kissing MJ on stage and Delieo got rid of her. Don't know if all is true, but somethings fall into place.
Maybe she was a girl that he found attractive, but became a bit to excited and it scared him off.

I heard Mike saw Tatiana and wanted her in his video right then.  They became a couple and were very close but when the first false allegations came out she got upset b/c Michael paid the kid and she thought that he was guilty and she broke it off.  I thought she was using him just like others, it's so sad  

No, Michael and Tatiana was never a couple... The scenario with her getting a bit too into him and him  pushing her away and finally fiering her from the tour, is the correct one. Tatiana told the public that there was something going on between them, but she later retracted it, saying it was said for publicity. According to all sources, they didn't speak after she was fired, so why she is parading around now like they were great friends, is beyond me.

Tatiana wasn't picked  right away for the video. Many girls auditioned and she was amongst the group that got a call back.

Lovely1pyt wrote

So this is what I heard back then, when BAD was still on the charts. She and Michael flirted alot during the making of the video. He spent time with her in between breaks. Latoya and Ms. Katherine notice. Ms. Katherine wanted Michael to be with a girl that cared about him, so she started getting to know Ms Tatiana. Michael became uncomfortable with her, "closeness' with his mom. He tried to distance himself from Tatiana and keep it professional, but by then she was already in love. On the BAD tour she made the fatal mistake of kissing MJ on stage and Delieo got rid of her. Don't know if all is true, but somethings fall into place.
Maybe she was a girl that he found attractive, but became a bit to excited and it scared him off.

Well, I don't doubt he flirted a bit during the video shoot.  You can see him flirting somewhat with one of her successors in TII.  Michael was a bit of a flirt, shy, but he knew what he liked and loved the attention from the ladies.  By most accounts, Tatiana misread his cues to mean he was REALLY into her and got all serious, culminating in the kiss.  She has admitted she lied about them having a relationship, so there really isn't any reason to believe anything else she says now about them having a relationship.  They look great together, but it just wasn't meant to be.  She  evidently wasn't the right woman for him.